Sunset 3rd Rail B&O T3 (Pictures and Video) (2024)

pennsy484OGR Forum Member

Sitting in my home office today, I heard the familiar THUD DING DONG of the UPS man, this time "delivering" my T3 onto my concrete front porch. No harm done thank goodness.

Beautiful engine. Great sounds. Runs smoothly. Negotiates all my track well.

Minor complaints: that stutter chuff, which my 3rd Rail Y6b also has; the engine slips out here and there on grades pulling around 13 freight cars; not great slow speed operation in TMCC mode, better in Cab1 mode; and a possible minor TMCC issue here and there on my layout. Need some ground planes I guess.

I'm happy with it so far.

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Alex MOGR Forum Member SUPPORTING MEMBERDIGITAL SUBSCRIBER

WOW Jeff that's a beautiful engine
the whistle and engine sound are awesome

THANKS FOR POSTING THE VIDEO
ALEX

1/10/1210:19 PM

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az2railOGR Forum Member

That really is a nice engine, and how long is that tender anway? Looks as long as the engine.

bruce

1/10/1210:28 PM

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pennsy484OGR Forum Member

Yeah, the tender is humongous! I gotta get some B&O heavyweights for this. I'm not sure if the vandy-tender T3's were used more so for passenger service, but I've seen a lot of pictures of the few vandy-tender T3's pulling heavyweights.

1/10/1210:49 PM

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T triplexOGR Forum Member DIGITAL SUBSCRIBER

Why can't they darken the pony truck wheels. The bright finish looks so uncool!

1/10/1211:00 PM

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c.samOGR Forum Member DIGITAL SUBSCRIBER

But at least they are full-sized, unlike many of Lionel's 'scale steamers'

1/10/1211:46 PM

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RickOOGR Forum Member SUPPORTING MEMBER

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Originally posted by c.sam:
But at least they are full-sized, unlike many of Lionel's 'scale steamers'

Lets not lose sight of why this is the case. 3rd rail's faithfullness to scale fidelity is a given, thats what they do. That loco rquires 0-72 minimum to accomodate the prototypical scale pilot and smaller flanges. If Lionel made that loco it would probably have an 0-42 radius recommendation or even smaller. I.E. the legacy northerns signifigantly larger than the t3 have undersized pilot wheels to prevent them from rubbing the cylinders or linkage on the o-54 minimum radius.Lionels overly obvious inaccuracies/shortcomings, often allow an operator with a smaller layout to be able to own a large loco. VL hudsons require o72 with the optional scale pilot installed. Anywhoo, nice video of a great loco Jeff! Thats definitely one of the whistle sets Lionel should have kept for themselves and updated it in a quillable version Sunset 3rd Rail B&O T3 (Pictures and Video) (19)

1/11/126:30 AM

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JS Jim SOGR Forum Member DIGITAL SUBSCRIBER

Jeff, your T3 is a beauty, which is what I would expect from 3rd Rail. I have a 3rd Rail B&M Berkshire, which is also a rolling work of art.

Enjoy your loco, thanks for sharing.

1/11/127:15 AM

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Rich BattistaOGR Forum Member

Jeff,

Very nice, as always 3rd rail details and accurracy are first rate, but there is one other thing that stood out for me. The smoke. The volume is good but I'm talking about the steady stream with the extra burst on top in synch with the chuff. My CB&Q does not have that extra burst, it is just steady. Is this a new feature? I really like this and was thinking about bringing this up in a post. As you may know, the smoke on the MTH and Lionel engines stops between chuffs which is not so realistic. Instead of stopping the fans, they should just change speeds which is what it looks like with this 3rd Rail engine. Very cool, very real looking.

Rich

1/11/127:33 AM

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pennsy484OGR Forum Member

Rich, I like that feature too. My 3rd Rail Y6b has it too. I don't recall offhand what year it was made, but at least a few years ago. That was the first I had seen that.

1/11/127:53 AM

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jd-trainOGR Forum Member

Jeff,

Thanks for sharing pics (and the video) of your T-3 with us.

I knew that the B&O had both short and long vandy tenders, but I didn't realize how long they actually were until I unpacked mine! LOL!

Jim

1/11/121:10 PM

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pennsy484OGR Forum Member

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Originally posted by jd-train:
Jeff,

Thanks for sharing pics (and the video) of your T-3 with us.

I knew that the B&O had both short and long vandy tenders, but I didn't realize how long they actually were until I unpacked mine! LOL!

Jim

My wife is particularly taken aback by the long vandy tender. lol

1/11/121:16 PM

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RickOOGR Forum Member SUPPORTING MEMBER

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Originally posted by pennsy484:

My wife is particularly taken aback by the long vandy tender. lol

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1/11/121:29 PM

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SG Steam GuyOGR Forum Member DIGITAL SUBSCRIBER

Jeff,

Thanks so much for posting photos and the video featuring this model. Love the smoke effect and the sounds are great.

Steve

1/11/129:03 PM

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pennsy484OGR Forum Member

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Originally posted by pennsy484:

My wife is particularly taken aback by the long vandy tender. lol

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If I had that kind of talent I'd take it on the road!

1/11/129:27 PM

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pennsy484OGR Forum Member

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Originally posted by Steam Guy:
Jeff,

Thanks so much for posting photos and the video featuring this model. Love the smoke effect and the sounds are great.

Steve

I really enjoy photographing and making videos of trains, so thanks for viewing!

It is a great whistle for a non quillable.

1/11/129:31 PM

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B bandofanOGR Forum Member

Pennsy484,

Pictures and videos are very well done. As for the real T3's, they could be seen single or double headed on express trains through the mountains out of Cumberland, or high balling a reefer block in the midwest. They were also used on QD (general, high priority freight over Sand Patch. And Bill Price has pictures of them as passenger helpers out of Cumberland. So it would be at home on the front of a pair of E units too.

And yes, that "flask on the hip" will cause "tender envy" among the rest of the fleet in your roundhouse.

Gary

1/12/127:35 AM

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Alex MOGR Forum Member SUPPORTING MEMBERDIGITAL SUBSCRIBER

Hi Jeff I watched this video again and I had already commented
above.I just had to post again this engine is really beautiful
and the sounds are incredible and that tender is huge.Great job
on the video.I would like to see pics of your layout progress
when you get a chance.

THANKS ALEX Sunset 3rd Rail B&O T3 (Pictures and Video) (30)

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